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EternalTempest · Nov 04, 2005, 09:17 PM // 21:17

They gave there investors a "guess". It will be done when it's done. I will be getting it as soon as it comes out

That being said it is intresting about the date as a target date but I would not hold my breath. I did find the GW sales figures link more instersting actually.

Note this is from South Korea point of view and update 2005-07-04 (3 months ago)

Quote:

Event
NCsoft announced this morning that its U.S. and Europe Guild Wars sales reached 650,000
copies, while domestic license sales were only 27,000.

Analysis
Exceptional overseas start. We believe NCsoft’s Guild Wars sales of 650,000 copies in
U.S. and Europe is outstanding, given this was achieved in just two months. Assuming
average shipping price of US$40/box, it appears that gross revenue on GW has already
reached $26 mn. The initial overseas sales figure is stronger than what we anticipated, but
we keep our 1.1 mn outlook for the year at this time.

Poor domestic launch. As suspected, Guild Wars sales in Korea for the first month of
launch was disappointing with just 27,000 licenses (business and personal combined). We
estimate the gross sales for the product has been about W1.5 bn, and NCsoft has
acknowledged GW Korea sales will fall materially short of its original W30 bn target for ’05.
We intend on monitoring progress for formation of GW game league for cable channel
broadcasting in 2H05 before making any further adjustments.

Focus on the portfolio and overseas progress. We believe NCsoft’s stronger than expected
overseas GW sales should compensate for disappointing domestic launch, which we believe
has been reflected in the share price through its recent decline. As we suggested in our
previous report, the outstanding launch of NCsoft’s GW sales abroad provides a strong
platform for optimism on other titles (Auto Assault, City of Villains, Exteel, etc.) in its
pipeline. Moreover, we also believe NCsoft is well on its way to generating 50% or more of
its revenues from abroad (on consolidated basis) by for FY05. We highlight that the
anticipated adoption of consolidated earnings release starting in 2H should improve the
transparency of the firm’s strong traction overseas. We believe this should allow the market
to focus on NCsoft’s broad portfolio of product pipeline and geographic markets.

Loviatar · Nov 04, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35

i read that also with interest.

considering they passed the 1 million mark weeks ago they may surpass the 1.1 they hope for.

lets hope Christmas brings a lot more in .

Lexar · Nov 04, 2005, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Considering how the summer update was at the very end of the summer, I'll just assume the first expansion will be at the very end of the first half of 2006, so I won't be dissapointed :|

Denny Pace · Nov 05, 2005, 12:14 PM // 12:14

As someone who has many years of experience dealing with developers and release dates (really clever people will be able to track who I am), I can tell you with 100% certainty that 'Chapter 2' will be released when Anet is satisfied with it, and not a day sooner. Why is that?

While a smaller, less successful developer might have a 'carved in stone' drop-dead date imposed on them by their publisher, Anet has earned, through excellent sales of GW, the right to call their shot on Chapter 2. I would be surprised if anyone at Anet would even be able to guess within 30 days when Chapter 2 will be on store shelves. Given the attention to detail they have demonstrated with the current chapter, I'm guessing they will be as exacting, if not more so, with Chapter 2.

Let's also keep in mind that the concept of multiple chapters for this game is absolutely key to the long-term success of the GW franchise. It's the tradeoff for not having a monthly fee, and they're going to want to make it as enticing as possible for us in order to not only keep as many of us playing as possible, but entice others to join our 1 million+ member community. With those stakes, there's simply no reason for us to believe anything we read/hear about a release date for Chapter 2 unless it comes directly from Gaile and Anet.

The really great news about all of this, IMHO, is that they've had a 'test run' for added content: Sorrows' Furnace. The reaction to SF has been undeniably positive, proving that Anet can indeed integrate major new content seamlessly into the game. I have little doubt that they will come up with something that will not only satisfy our CORPG lust, but will bring old friends back into the game and introduce us to many new friends.

Until then, see you in GvG and the HoH!

Takeko Nakano · Nov 05, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45

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Originally Posted by Denny Pace

As someone who has many years of experience dealing with developers and release dates (really clever people will be able to track who I am), I can tell you with 100% certainty that 'Chapter 2' will be released when Anet is satisfied with it, and not a day sooner.

I certainly hope so. A few months won't make a difference to me, but the extra playability of GW will!

Klael · Nov 05, 2005, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Demonstar

To be honest all I really care about is the title of the expansion pack, not it's release date. Why? Cause titles are much cooler than release dates that constantly change.

The title is chapter 2.

Guild Wars: Chapter 2

nimloth32 · Nov 05, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24

But i think a few months will make a lot of differences to anet if they don't release the new expansion coz as i can see, there are some players who started deciding to quit guild wars coz they are starting to get bored with it after ascending, go everywhere and PvP. If they delayed the release of expansion, they will lose fans coz there will be new MMORPG released soon (like D&D Online, Lord of the Ring Online).

Dead Lightning · Nov 05, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Gaile summed it up, this is nothing more but a another speculation and rumor thread... till the devs and A.net give a press release date and time for chapter 2, I will believe no other source.

All ArenaNet has really said about the release date is that it will be in the first half of 2006, so it could be June 30, 11:59, 59 seconds, 99 100ths of a second before Guild Wars Chapter 2 will be released.

Loviatar · Nov 05, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by nimloth32

But i think a few months will make a lot of differences to anet if they don't release the new expansion coz as i can see, there are some players who started deciding to quit guild wars coz they are starting to get bored with it after ascending, go everywhere and PvP. If they delayed the release of expansion, they will lose fans coz there will be new MMORPG released soon (like D&D Online, Lord of the Ring Online).

coz coz coz it was never meant to be played 24/7/365 and twice on sunday.

they got your money and leaving for something else for awhile will not hurt them like canceling a monthly charge game.

what counts is how many people had enough fun with chapter 1 to buy chapter 2.

-Loki- · Nov 06, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

what counts is how many people had enough fun with chapter 1 to buy chapter 2.

Or how many people will see chapter 2 on the shelves and think - hey, that looks good. I won't mind spending the $20 the original game costs now to play this.

Aniewiel · Nov 06, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Ah, I love a good speculation thread. Remember that Gaile works for ANet and her words carry more weight around here than those of, say, Gamespot or other companies looking to get preorders. And, as others have said, the report is over 2 months old. Tons of stuff happens in 2 months...some of which might not actually even advance the game.

And, as Loviatar said, the game was not intended to be played the same way that MMORPGs are played. It really -isn't- one in the traditional sense of the...er...not word...um...the traditional sense of the abbreviation.

At any rate, enough speculating for one night. This thread will close now and will surely be reinvented within days.